Sunday, July 18, 2010

Ah la la ho Over Abortion

The ongoing debate on abortion in Kenya ... I wonder when will the 'Holy See' and their side-kicks and cronies will accept that only a few in the world give two hoots to children thrown in the garbage dumps, streets, abused and starved in homes and schools. Instead of caring for the alive but miserable in this world, they are driving the whole world to go ah la la ho over the unborn. This reminds me of a Buddhist श्लोक (verse):


In the great self existing mandal (a concentric structure) of dharmadhatu (spiritual metal)
where all phenomena reside free from cause and conditions.

Everywhere I look for the self called me (in the light of the abortion debate, I read ‘me’ as women),
it is nowhere to be found.

This life force (I take it as the foetus) is but a brief flicker
like a June bug in the night.

Happy is the yogin (the female knowledge-self who practices contemplation) who clasps the jewel of radiant
Bodhicitta (the aware/enlightened self) unbounded and self-perfected

Now, this interpretation of the श्लोक (verse) is far and away from the implied meaning, but this is what most often the interpretations do - they allow to interpret from the vantage point of the person interpreting (and that's how either distortions/retrogressive or progressive understandings emerge over a period)! In the second last sentence of this note, I have given a link to an interesting paper, which is not about morality or legality of abortion, but on a much narrow issue that when pregnant woman needs a treatment that would harm the foetus in her womb, should she be denied the treatment, or the foetus be put under threat that may affect it if born or find ways to abort the foetus safely. The paper goes on to say that the foetuses have legitimate interests, rather than rights, and a sick pregnant woman has the rights over her body and a right to health. So when there are competing interests, the rights of the woman to decide on her medical treatment, to give consent and her health should prevail. When you have opened the link, click on One-Click Download button on the top to download the paper: "Ethical and legal issues in reproductive health: Ethical and legal approaches to ‘the fetal patient’". It is worth a read!

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''So when there are competing interests, the rights of the woman to decide on her medical treatment, to give consent and her health should prevail.'' Absolutely agree.
1 reply · active 768 weeks ago
Holies of the Holies and their cronies (medical establishment) are just like Desi fruit vendors. Let the tree die, lets pick the green mangoes (pre term fetus) and ripe them with oxitocine or some other chemical (incubator and NICCU). Every body makes money hell with if the mangoe rotts later.

Will check the blog in next visit. Enjoy wordpress :)

Peace,

Desi Girl
1 reply · active 768 weeks ago
Please do, Desi Girl. Power and control by religion and science ... indeed they can be dangerous together!
Hmmm. Being a Christian, I have seen this debate go long enough. Religion has exhausted its use in the modern day world. Everyone has a right over their own bodies and lives and no one has the authority over anyone's body atleast. Women must have the final word irrespective of what the Pope says. Seriously, these old men are destroying my religion.
1 reply · active 767 weeks ago
I am sure you are championing reform, wherever possible and that is what is needed - rather than following each person to think and act in the interest of not only the self and but also for inclusive social interest. Blind faith has created all forms of fundamentalism against one another based on religion, sex, gender, caste ...
nice post...though i dint undrstad it completely but still wateva i did il say religion at times is just a veil we use from letting the outer world come to us..

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3 replies · active 765 weeks ago
Saw you blog ... good writing style.

As for this blog of mine, it take up the issue of the right to life of the mother vis-a-vis that of her foetus and her rights over her body and health over the right of the foetus to be born. There has been a prolonged deabte, often violent and violatative of women and girls' rights. Many across the word equate abortion to human-slaughter (killing) and so they argue that women and girls do not have a right to abort the foetus and if they do so, they should be punished for this.
Of course, it is right to life is a fundamental principle as well as a socially accepted fact that all human beings have a right to life. This means that the right to life of a human being is an obligation or a duty of the other human beings that they protect this right to life of the right holder. So if somebody does not meet that obligation or duty, that person should be punished for that. And so often many societies and their governments make abortion illegal and regard those who undergo abortion as well as those who assist in abortion as criminals.
This view is challenged by a large number of women and men on the gorund that the right to life is not absolute and that there are hierarchies of rights. So if a pregnant woman's life is under threat or is going to be put under threat by keeping the foetus and assuming that both the pregnant woman and the foetus have a right to life, the pregnant women's rights to life, body and right to control her reproduction score over the foetus' right to life/be born.

the other important point is that the right to life is not the right to be saved. Most government, through law, make it an obligation of some institutions to save life (like police, doctors, etc). In this sense the law creates a right and makes protection of that right by some others an obligation. But such legal creation of the right to life and obligation to protect, does not always mean that the legal right holder also has a moral right to be protected by all and all others have a moral duty to protect that person's life. For example, a pregnant woman has a competing right to life with her foetus but she is not morally obligated to save the right to life of the foetus.

Hope the above makes some sense.
nice one post

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